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  Ironic quote in the 5/14wt lesson "Are you moving ahead with Jehovahs Organization"

  by BU2B in

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  the whole article makes me ill with its worse than average mind control.. i was going to only include one quote but there are so many doozies that i will post what i feel to be the worst.. from paragraph 6.

  "gods organization survives and flourishes on earth because the people who are part of it have his approval.".

  the great tribulation has been "so close" for over 120 years of wt history.

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  Thanks for the Y!A question idea, BU2B :

  https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20140803123347AAsKHI2
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  TUTORIAL: Proving the GB and Watch Tower is guilty

  by Terry in

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  q: are you willing to admit the gb and the wts is wrong if the facts go against them?.

  proof text.

  proof text:.

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  The Truth About The Truth goes way way way back before Watchtower?

  by Island Man in

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  here's an interesting excerpt from forged by bart ehrman (pay particular attention to the last sentence):.

  "a number of the books of the new testament were disputed already in early christianity, among the christian scholars of the second to the fourth centuries, who were arguing over which books should be included in scripture.. the most famous instance is the book of revelation.

  a third-century christian scholar of alexandria, egypt, named dionysius, argued that the book was not actually written by jesuss disciple john, the son of zebedee.

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  Here's an interesting excerpt from Forged by Bart Ehrman (pay particular attention to the last sentence):

  "A number of the books of the New Testament were disputed already in early Christianity, among the Christian scholars of the second to the fourth centuries, who were arguing over which books should be included in Scripture.

  The most famous instance is the book of Revelation. A third-century Christian scholar of Alexandria, Egypt, named Dionysius, argued that the book was not actually written by Jesus’s disciple John, the son of Zebedee. Dionysius’s argument was compelling and continues to be compelling to scholars today. He maintained that the writing style of the book is so different from that of the Gospel of John that they could not have been written by the same person (modern scholars differ from Dionysius only in thinking that the Gospel too was probably not written by John). Dionysius thought there must have been two authors of the same name who later came to be confused as the same person. But it is interesting that Dionysius, according to the church father Eusebius, had a number of predecessors who had argued that Revelation was written not by a different man named John, but by a heretic named Cerinthus, who forged the account in order to promote his false teaching that there would be a literal future paradise of a thousand years here on earth."
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  Are you interested in dropping your southern accent?

  by jam in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  well you are in luck, oak ridge national laboratory in.

  tn offered a class for their 4000 employees from 90. different countries, get this,a class that teaches how to.

  minimice a southern accent.

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  "Deers nut'n wrong with dis ere ehksint"
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  Said from the platform: "You are not surviving Armaggedon if you are spiritually weak"

  by Daniel1555 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  today i was at the meeting (i go there about once a month now).

  in the service meeting they had a part where they interviewed the secretary of the congregation.. so one question was: "why are the service reports so important?".

  our secretary explained that the reports are important, because the elders can see, who is spiritually weak.

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  "You are not surviving Armaggedon if you are spiritually weak!

  I would say to that brother after the meeting:

  "Excuse me, Bro. Scare-aggedon, you said that one can't survive armageddon if they're spiritually week - is that true?"

  Bro. Scare-aggedon: "Yes it is."

  Me: "That's just too bad . . . we would all miss you so much . . . no, wait, the scripture says the former things will not be called to mind . . ."
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  The spelling fairy says: It's 'atheist', not 'athiest'

  by Apognophos in

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  atheists are people who are "a-" (without) "theism" (a belief in god).

  they are not "athiests"; they are not "athier" than everyone else, nor is "athy" a word.. .

  this isn't aimed at anyone in particular, but it's a mistake i see every day on here and i thought it might be nice to have a topic we can bump just to periodically remind people of the proper spelling, especially since they are sometimes referring to their very own beliefs.

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  "Its a shame about our spelling. Our brain and it's failure to get things straight."

  Hey! You got your itses mixed up. The above should be "It's a shame...and its failure..."
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  The spelling fairy says: It's 'atheist', not 'athiest'

  by Apognophos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  atheists are people who are "a-" (without) "theism" (a belief in god).

  they are not "athiests"; they are not "athier" than everyone else, nor is "athy" a word.. .

  this isn't aimed at anyone in particular, but it's a mistake i see every day on here and i thought it might be nice to have a topic we can bump just to periodically remind people of the proper spelling, especially since they are sometimes referring to their very own beliefs.

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  In this technological age of txting, accurate spelling is highly overrated and on its way to becoming obsolete. Who reads the letters in words anyway? I only see word shapes. Just make sure your word has the right shape. That's all that counts. Athiest and Atheist have almost identical shapes. Unless you're righting () writing a resume or some other important formal document, don't sweat it.
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  Wow! Are You Stumped By Anything This 'Still-in' X-JW says?

  by Island Man in

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  2. beliefs

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbzn9aric28.

  i think he needs help.

  i feel pity for him..

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  She told me that she "wasn't familiar with the account" and "if she had read it she couldn't recall what it was about, except for homosexuals"

  IKR? Isn't it funny how all the bible-believers remember the detail about homosexuality but completely forget the detail about Lot offering his daughters to be raped?
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  Surreal experience last night.

  by objectivetruth in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  recently a jw friend that my wife & i knew 3 years ago added me on facebook, after i accepted the request she invited me to a dinner that her and her husband are holding next month.. i imagined that she was unaware of our apostasy, so i declined the invitation on the basis of not wanting to ruin her dinner after the rest of her guests fled at our presence.. i'm never sure how old friends will react when i tell them that i'm no longer a jw.. usually their response is "..... permanent-silence......".

  her response went something like this, " we are all out!

  everyone that is coming is out we all look forward to seeing you guys so much" it turns out that there will be 6 people at the dinner all friends of ours from a congregation that we attended a few years back.. they have all left the organization recently.. pretty crazy experience..

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  I'll tell you all how it goes.

  You had better do that or we'll all have to shun you.
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  If I was God..

  by jam in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  if i was god how would i have created man so he wouldn't sin..

  diarrhea!!.

  i may lose some of you here, but stick with me.. ok, god gave us a conscious but sometimes our conscious can.

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  Also if I were God all of Adam's offspring would get a second chance on the basis of Jesus ransom - whether they profess faith in Jesus or not. Why? Because all are dying because of Adam's sin - whether they believe in Adam or not. For Jesus to truly be the second Adam and undo the effects of Adam's sin, his sacrifice should be applied to all automatically just as the curse of Adam's sin was applied to all automatically.

  I would not hold any imperfect human accountable for the sins he commits in his imperfection by destroying him forever. Why? Because all imperfect humans lack perfect free will. They are all under the mitigating circumstances of imperfection. All the bad that wicked humans do, I can and will undo so all the harm caused by wicked people will be erased.

  Does this mean there will be no deterrent to wickedness? No. I would implement an eye for an eye law, naturally. What that means is that whenever someone deliberately kills or harms someone, the same pain or death brought on by that wrongdoer is naturally visited back on him without any human judges or jury being required. Thus there is no abuse of justice by imperfect humans. No humans will be required to execute murderers. No innocent persons would be wrongly condemned. The guilty would be made to suffer the very wrongs they inflict on others, soon after inflicting them. The world would be a much better place. Everyone would have empathy because if you failed to imagine the pain you'll do your fellow man before you harm him, you wouldn't fail to actually experience it after you harm him.

  There would be no need for Armageddon and there would have been no need for a flood because the eye for an eye law of quick divine justice would all but stamp out violence. The eye for an eye law will keep violence in check the same way gravity keeps everything on the ground. Only insane and suicidal people would think of deliberately harming others.

  There would be no question of my right to rule mankind - no issue of universal sovereignty to be resolved. Such a question is borne of ignorance. I would be so transparent in my dealings and my reasons for what I require that all would know that my rule is just and that I have their best interests at heart. There would be no reason for suspicion of my motives. Of course this means that Satan could not have deceived Eve into thinking that I am selfish and withholding good from her, which in turn means that the whole issue of sin never would have been introduced into the world to begin with.

  I wouldn't just give humans laws. I would also explain to them the reason behind the laws. I would explain to them exactly how following a law like "do not make clothing out of two different types of fabric" benefits them in a practical way and the harm that disobeying will cause. I will not require blind obedience based on my power.

  I would not be an egocentric maniac who requires others to worship me. I would not require others fearing me. I would welcome others questioning my reasons for doing things a certain way and would provide explanations for it. I would be 110% transparent and approachable. People would love me because they want to. People would obey me because they know what I ask is true and is in their best interests - not because they're just trusting in me or fearing me.

  This is how my world would work If I were God.